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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #39687 is a reply to message #39685] Thu, 31 May 2012 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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joxovurd hima es inch anem , esi vor havaqel em es sxemaiov, uxxaki miacnem cherez en usb shnur vore vor uni et pl2303 chipe u verj, kashxati ha?u ete ha kaseq vor heraxosi kabeli vra ka eti, xanutnerum harcnum em nenc en nayum vres vonc vor marsic ijac linem. chnaiac es el vochinch heru em et amen inchic, baic qtacak unem .


En USB shnury vor kchares aranc ed sxema el piti ashxati. Isk da (MAX 232)im karciqov petq a RS 232-in miacnel






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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #39689 is a reply to message #39687] Thu, 31 May 2012 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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K-07 ты обсалютно неправильно понимаеш что делаеш. Если у тебя есть комп с ком портом тогда юзай через ту схему с мах232. Если нету тогда прочти мои посты заново. Зачем собрать на мах232 если все равно будеш соединять по усб? Смысл не понятен.

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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #39708 is a reply to message #39689] Fri, 01 June 2012 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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vse ok. ya ponial da ya erundoi stradaiu po xodu, u menia com porta netu , vse poniatno ogromnoe spasibo vsem.

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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #39710 is a reply to message #39708] Fri, 01 June 2012 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mi nexvir, exbayr. Menq estex henc dra hamar el havaqvac enq, vor ete harcer kan - qnnarkenq u ov inchov karoxa ogtakar lini.
Uxxaki qez petq a hetaqrqrvel u heraxosi ed shnurneric charel (dranq himnakanum hin modelneri kabelnern en). U bnav partadir chi vor lini Pl2303, kara lini ev CP2102

qez mi angama petq stugel, te uzum es mshtakan unenas ?


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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #39716 is a reply to message #39710] Fri, 01 June 2012 19:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #39731 is a reply to message #39684] Sat, 02 June 2012 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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meqenan w124 e320 1995g americanka!
uzumem droselni zaslionken nayem.
kod oshibkeq@ nayem u djndjem ete petq lini
meqenas mi problem uni,gaz@ reski sexmelu depqum abarotner@ IDJNUMA,MTACUMA NOR GAZA VERCNUM.
kaskacuymem zaslionki vra,mekel ira kompi kochvuma karb control.
benzinov chi zgacvum,baic gazov ahavora.gaznel bardolini systema,drelem banki krug Karenenc mot.



Zerqi tak gorciq unenaly lav bana, bayc
ete benzinov normala ashxatum uremn xndiry man ari gazi mej (reduktori chnshum, soplaneri tramagic, gaz-benzin gorcakicneri karta). Inz tvum a xndiry aveli shat nastroykayi heta kapvac.

gaz@ reski sexmelu depqum abarotner@ IDJNUMA,MTACUMA NOR GAZA VERCNUM. - shat nmana, vor ktruk nagruzkayi depqum gazy chi heriqum (kam hakaraky). Ete gazi kompin arden karum es kpnes - gri te inchqan a differencial chnshumy, nayi benzini srskman tevoxutyuny XX -i depqum gaz -benzin poxeluc, ete gites -gri soplaneri tramagicy. matori hzorutyuny. CE-n varvum a ?

Benzinov problemner@ etqan shat chi erevum.Mi xndir ka,kruiz@ chi ashxatum,isk im mot elektronni pedal gaza!dra hamar uzumem diagnostika anel.isk droselni zaslionken patasxanatuia naev xx oborotneri ev lav gaz chvercnelu hamar!
Axpers ete djvar chi gri inch parametrer piti dnem?Bardolini gazi kompna,meqenas w124 e320 224 dziauj mator@ m104 6 mxocani!
esel knayem u kgrem im mot inchqanen et qo asac parametrer@


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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #39732 is a reply to message #39731] Sat, 02 June 2012 18:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Benzinov problemner@ etqan shat chi erevum. Chi erevum, te chka ?


isk droselni zaslionken patasxanatuia naev xx oborotneri ev lav gaz chvercnelu hamar! - Chishta, bayc XX-n u lav gaz chvercnely karan bolorovin ayl patcharner unenan (podsos vozduxa, MAF ev ayln)chnayac vor scanerov mi angam evs nayely cher xangari. Bayc mi ban el asem - shat hnaravor a ДПДЗ -n xndir unena u kompy da vorpes oshibka chtesni. Aveli chisht klini hishox oscilografov nayel.

Axpers ete djvar chi gri inch parametrer piti dnem?Bardolini gazi kompna,meqenas w124 e320 224 dziauj mator@ m104 6 mxocani!
esel knayem u kgrem im mot inchqanen et qo asac parametrer@ - Chgitem te qo mot inch reduktora drac, bayc diff chnshumy motavorapes 1.3-1.5 bar petqa lini, soplaneri tramagicy 2.4-2.5 mm, Benzin -gaz poxelu jermastichany mot 40 C. Isk gorcakicnery amen meqenayi hamar individual en. mianshanak hnaravor chi asel.

Micru cragiry (ete chem sxalvum GI-n a) u ushadrutyun darzru BENZINI srskman tevoxutyany. Gaz poxeluc da petq a shat qich poxvi (minchev 5%) Orinak, ete XX-i depqum benziny srskum a 3.5ms, gaz poxeluc petqa lini 3.3-3.7 ms.

Inch reduktora drac u inch forsunkeq en ?


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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #39733 is a reply to message #39732] Sat, 02 June 2012 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Vorpes kanon mer ustanovshiknery bavararvum en menak avtokalibrovkov. Bayc nastroykan petq a anely nagruzkayi amboxj diapazonum, aysinqn tarber rejimnerum qshelov. .... Isk ov edqan haves uni ? Xlop-xlop

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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #39734 is a reply to message #39733] Sat, 02 June 2012 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Benzin -gaz poxelu jermastichany mot 40 C. Isk gorcakicnery amen meqenayi hamar individual en. mianshanak hnaravor chi asel.

Micru cragiry (ete chem sxalvum GI-n a) u ushadrutyun darzru BENZINI srskman tevoxutyany. Gaz poxeluc da petq a shat qich poxvi (minchev 5%) Orinak, ete XX-i depqum benziny srskum a 3.5ms, gaz poxeluc petqa lini 3.3-3.7 ms."

Для теплого климата можно и на 30градусов ставить переход. Длительность впрыска если бензин 3.5 метан должно быть 4.5-5мс. разница в 0.2мс это для пропана максимум. Мотор точно не будет хорошо работать при таких настройках. Если метан 3.3-3.7мс тогда на бензине должно быть 1.7-2.5мс где то. В интернете полно статей и форумов обсуждаюших гбо настройку но если быть повнимательнее окажется что там говорится про пропан-бутан Smile. Метан это совсем другое. И мало где есть описание о настройках.


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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #39737 is a reply to message #39734] Sun, 03 June 2012 00:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Benzin -gaz poxelu jermastichany mot 40 C. Isk gorcakicnery amen meqenayi hamar individual en. mianshanak hnaravor chi asel.

Micru cragiry (ete chem sxalvum GI-n a) u ushadrutyun darzru BENZINI srskman tevoxutyany. Gaz poxeluc da petq a shat qich poxvi (minchev 5%) Orinak, ete XX-i depqum benziny srskum a 3.5ms, gaz poxeluc petqa lini 3.3-3.7 ms."

Для теплого климата можно и на 30градусов ставить переход. Длительность впрыска если бензин 3.5 метан должно быть 4.5-5мс. разница в 0.2мс это для пропана максимум. Мотор точно не будет хорошо работать при таких настройках. Если метан 3.3-3.7мс тогда на бензине должно быть 1.7-2.5мс где то. В интернете полно статей и форумов обсуждаюших гбо настройку но если быть повнимательнее окажется что там говорится про пропан-бутан Smile. Метан это совсем другое. И мало где есть описание о настройках.


Xosqy gnum a menak BENZINI forseri masin.
Aysinqn nayum es XX-i (kam ete hnaravora nagruzkayi) jamanak benzini srskman tevoxutyuny, poxum es gaz, noric nayum es BENZINI fors-eri tevoxutyany. Gazov ashxatelu jamanak (karevor chi , metan te propan) benzini vprisky chpetq a poxvi (kam poxvi shat qich)
Hamazayn em, vor 3.5 ms (benzin fors)= 4.5ms (metan fors)



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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #39738 is a reply to message #39312] Sun, 03 June 2012 00:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Treq senc mi harc, metaloplaste gazabalonneri 2.0 yev 2.2-i datark vichakum qashi tarberutyun@ 5kg. e (aydpes en asum) isk arden licqavorvac vichakum vorqan klini qasheri tarberutyun@ Confused

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Treq senc mi harc, metaloplaste gazabalonneri 2.0 yev 2.2-i datark vichakum qashi tarberutyun@ 5kg. e (aydpes en asum) isk arden licqavorvac vichakum vorqan klini qasheri tarberutyun@ Confused


motavorapes 7 kg


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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #39740 is a reply to message #39737] Sun, 03 June 2012 03:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Xosqy gnum a menak BENZINI forseri masin.
Aysinqn nayum es XX-i (kam ete hnaravora nagruzkayi) jamanak benzini srskman tevoxutyuny, poxum es gaz, noric nayum es BENZINI fors-eri tevoxutyany. Gazov ashxatelu jamanak (karevor chi , metan te propan) benzini vprisky chpetq a poxvi (kam poxvi shat qich)
Hamazayn em, vor 3.5 ms (benzin fors)= 4.5ms (metan fors)




Понял Smile


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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #39998 is a reply to message #39312] Mon, 11 June 2012 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Joxovurd es kgjvem arden es kabeli dzere, ov kara asi konkret et heraxosi lare vortexic karam arnem, anune kam mi hat nkara karaq cuic taq, konkret vor heraxosi lari masina xosqe? shnorhakalutyun.

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Joxovurd es kgjvem arden es kabeli dzere, ov kara asi konkret et heraxosi lare vortexic karam arnem, anune kam mi hat nkara karaq cuic taq, konkret vor heraxosi lari masina xosqe? shnorhakalutyun.



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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #40008 is a reply to message #39312] Mon, 11 June 2012 23:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ha gta arden , miacri im gorce ari, uremn teseq incha stacvum, mtnum em mi xanut vortex tenc baner en vacharum, harcnum em heraxosi data cabel uneq, asuma ape de che eli arden 3 angam harcrel es, baic es hamarutyun em anum asum em mi hat nayem , u tesnem unen en inchqan unen, asum em ba esa uneq asuma, ha usbi lar es uzum ape unenq, u es arden ahagin jamanaka chem karum gtnem.

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shnorhakalutyun, isk ov kimana gasitaly-i tsragire vonc karox em update anel, kam nor vortexic kareli e gtnel, cankali e russeren lezvov.

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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #40024 is a reply to message #40018] Wed, 13 June 2012 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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shnorhakalutyun, isk ov kimana gasitaly-i tsragire vonc karox em update anel, kam nor vortexic kareli e gtnel, cankali e russeren lezvov.



Chgitem te qo mot vor versian a, bayc estex nayi

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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #40054 is a reply to message #40024] Wed, 13 June 2012 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ha henc esi el unem, es 7.6 versiana , baic ka arden 8 versia, chem gtnum


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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #40055 is a reply to message #40054] Wed, 13 June 2012 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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isk texyak es asenq inchumn e 7.7-i u 8-i tarberutyuny ?

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8-i mej ka grafiki standartner,ruchnoi nastroikeqi hamar , russeren lezu, u eli mi qani baner.es im arhestavori mot em tesel baic inchpes lari het kapvac chuzec ogni, nuyn dzev chasec naev te et tsragire vortexica gtel, firmain gaxtniq er.

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Digitronic DGI Evolution [message #40664 is a reply to message #39312] Fri, 06 July 2012 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Barev Jhoxovurd jan vonc haskaca es el petq a mtnem es forumi mej qani vor es el em gazovikneric lav "kshtacac" , ev inqnuruyn dzerq em berel bolor paraganery voronq vor harkavor en Gazi nastroyki hamar.

Nax asem vor meqenais vra (Vento 97, 2.0 L AKPP,) drvac e Digitronic DGI Evolution IV Versia 7.5 3.0.0 Controllery,

Perexodniky arel em ebay-ic `
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Softy Digitronic-DGI 7.0.0.2

Qani vor ays temai shurj lav masnagetner kan es mi qani harc unem nastroyki veraberyal.

1. Inch parametrer a petq autokalibrovka aneluc araj dnel ?(Rabochee davlenia-? minimalnoe davlenie-?)

2.Benzini u gazi kartaneri idealakan hamapatasxanecneluc heto, ardyoq petq a benzini u gazi vpriski tevoxutyunnery

havasarven, kam hamarya havasarven?

3.Avtokalibrovkic heto dexin kory (koeficenti kory) xi chi dzum ira uzacov ? Ayl mnum e aynpes inchpes minjev

kalibrovka anely.

4.Inch bana "otklonenie", ardyoq idealakan dzeluc heto ayd "otkloneniayi" karmir kory petq e hamynki koeficenti dexin kori het?

5. Inch bana Temperaturnaya korrekciya, inchna dzum? Inchina xangarum vor dzvac chi kam dzer tvac chi yndhanrapes?

6.Inchy kara patchary linel aravotyan, kam mi qani gham kangneluc heto (nuynisk shog exanakin) xodi taluc benzinic -> gaz perexodi ghamanak hangelu patchary. Meqenan mali tak ashxatelu masin a xosqy.

Shat shnorhakal klinem patasxani hamar.Karcum em urishneri hamar el inch vor chapov pitani klini dzer patasxannery.

P.S. Ays forumy shat shat mec vnas e talis irancic shat goh, voch mekin chognox, iranc suti gaxtniqy pahox, bayc shat qich ban imacox cak proffesor gazoviknerin voronc mot menq charahatyal planavorum enq gnal u gazy dzel. Iranq menak avtokalibrovki texy giten u mek naxadasutyun "Sranic lav el inch es uzum?"

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Я обшие сведения могу тока написать у разных производителей ГБО настройка разная и интерфейс и карты.
1. Inch parametrer a petq autokalibrovka aneluc araj dnel ?(Rabochee davlenia-? minimalnoe davlenie-?)

Рабочее давление редуктора придерживать нужно в пределах 170-190атм или бар шас не помню.

2.Benzini u gazi kartaneri idealakan hamapatasxanecneluc heto, ardyoq petq a benzini u gazi vpriski tevoxutyunnery

havasarven, kam hamarya havasarven?

Нет это не LPG a CNG так что разница и должна быть полюбому.

6.Inchy kara patchary linel aravotyan, kam mi qani gham kangneluc heto (nuynisk shog exanakin) xodi taluc benzinic -> gaz perexodi ghamanak hangelu patchary. Meqenan mali tak ashxatelu masin a xosqy.

Думаю с давлением редуктора (рабочим давлением пункт1) и\или с задержкой с переходом на газ поэкспериметнировать.

По пропушеным пунктам ничего не смогу сказать т.к. у всех разные интерфейсы и катры.


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Isk instrukcian kardacel es ?

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Shat mersi patasxanelu hamar. Cragiry uni help, vortex kan pdf ner, bayc mejy im tvac harceri patasxannery chkan, aysinqn da instrukcia e masnageti hamar, softi het ashxatelu hamar, grvac e te vory iranic inch a nerkayacnum u vonc popoxel parametrery zut softy karavarelu hamar, grvac che te vor depqum inchn a petq popoxel u vor parametry inch kaxum uni myus parametric ashxatanqi yntacqum.
Otklyuchenie cilindrov hima drvac e 0 ms (vremya pereklyuchenie s benzina na gaz), porcer arel em popoxel, drel em 70 ms, 100ms, 150ms arandznapes voch mi effect chem zgacel. Texadroxnery rabochi davlenian drel ein 1,5 atm, Kalibrovkic heto et davlenin hamarya chi poxvum. Isk te kalibrovki ardyunqum koeficenti kory petq a poxvi te che et es tenc el chimaca. Kalibrovkic heto chi poxvum. Voch texadroxy kasi, voch el inch vor tex grvac e. Miak huyss duq eq.
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Es Digitronic-in canot chem, bayc bolor gazi hamakargery hamarya nuyn principov en ashxatum.

1. Avtokalibrovkayic araj lracvum en jermutyan u chnshman datchikneri tipery, cilindrneri qanak, benzin -gaz poxman jermastichan, jamanak u nman parametrer. Qo depqum karcum em, vor rabochee davlenie - 1.5 atm lriv normala. Da mexanikakan kargavorvum a reduktori vrayic.1.5 -y normal tiva. Minimal'noe davlenien im karciqov en chnshumn a, voric cacr hamakargy noric petq a veradarna benzini.

2. Voch mi depqum !!!! sa karox em asel mianshanak !
gazi srskman tevoxutyuny petqa a lini motavorapes 1.4-1.5 angam benzini srskman tevoxutyunic avel. Orinak benz.- 3.0 ms, gaz - 4.2 ms. Bayc chpetqa hasni 2 angami , vorovhetev nagruzkayi jamanak, erb benzini tevoxutyuny khasni asenq 15 ev avel ms-i, kstacvi vor gazi forsery misht bac kmnan. isk erb T benz = T gaz nshanakum a soplanery layn en cakac, gazi fors-ery bacvelu minimal jamanak en pahanjum (ete chem sxalvum Rail u Valtecnery 3.5 ms minimum). Mi xosqov nayum es - ete avtokalibrovkayic heto T gaz= T benz , uremn soplanery layn en cakac, kam reduktori chnshumy shata, ete T gaz = 2*T benz, nshanakum a soplanery poqr en, kam chnshumn a qich.

5. Temperaturnaya korrekcian himnakanum miacvum a benzinic gaz sahun poxelu hamar, da himnakanum kara lini matory nor taqacneluc heto, kam erb matory taqa, bayc erkar kangnela u nman depqer, mi xosqov qo nkaragrac 6-rd kety. Konfiguraciayi bajnum cilindrnery gaz miacnelu zaderjkayi chisht yntrutyan u temperaturnaya korrekciayi chisht nastroykayi depqum matory shat sahun a ancnum benzinic gaz.

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Shat mersi file-i hamar bayc es arden unei da.Cragri helpi mej kar. Henc et kargi pdf i het ei vor uxaki nkaragrum a te vor parametry inch a iranic nerkayacnum, bayc chi bacatrum te vonc petq a dzes tarber depqeri kam nagruzkeqi ghamanak. Hima arden ahagin porpreluc heto ahagin ban jokum em te verj i verjo inch a petq anel. Ays nkarum es dexin kori vra arden arel em popoxutyun, vor kanach kory motecnem kapuytin. Ynd vorum koef. kory dzeluc heto jnjel em gazi kartan (kanachy), vorpesi inqy noric gazi karta sarqi arden popoxvac dexin kori himan vra ,jnjelu masin ev urish liqy lav baner kardacel em- http://gazmap.ru/stati/nastroyka-gbo-digitronic
karcum em hangelu patchary mali oborotneri tak gazi cacr koeficenti patcharna. Naev haskaca te inchin er dzerq talis im "imastun" gazoviky vor mali oboroti tak asum er "Mi hat rezki pedaly sexmi" De dexin kori vrayi "1" keti moti korn er verev/nerqev anum` harstacnelov kam pakasacnelov gazy kam koeficenty "dzelov rivoky kam tapy".
Tesnenq te vonc kkaruci kanach kory es depqum.Mi qani oric kartayi nor nkary kdnem forumum.index.php?t=getfile&id=2980&private=0
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Sa el gazi nastroykeqn a otklyucheni cilindrov drel em 220 tenam inch klini index.php?t=getfile&id=2981&private=0
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Re: GAZI DIAGNOSTIKA [message #40690 is a reply to message #40683] Sun, 08 July 2012 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Inch kanei es.
Nax meqenan mi 100-150 km kqshei MENAK BENZINOV.
temperatura pereklyucheniya na gaz - 35 (25-y qicha)
560-y khanei
pereklyucheine na benzin 3500-y edtex petq chi, da nshanakum a amen angam erb vor oborotnery kancnen 3500-ic (isk da shat hachaxa linelu) inqy poxeluya benzin.
Kmiacnei Avarinnye zapuski na gaze
Kmiacnei Progrev gazovyx forsunok
Kspasei matory taqana 60 C ev aveli.
kancnei Avtokalibrovkayi.
Heto khavaqei benzini kartan
Heto gaziny.
Vonc haskaca dexin kory chpetqa ev poxver. na uxxaki spasum a, vor inqd popoxutyunner katares, qez hnaravorutyuna talis kartanery havaqeluc heto zerqov havasarecnel dranq.
heto maqrum es gazi kartan, noric es qshum gazov vor nor karta havaqvi, noric es korrektirovka anum ete kariqy ka. Enqan, minchev ed erku korery irar het hamynknen.
Inch verebervum a dexin kori vrayi arajin ketin.- Da voch mi kap chuni rivoki het. da kargavorum a menak XX-n.
Kartanery havaqeluc ashxati vor ketery shat linen, aveli chisht nastroyka kanes. Dra hamar uxix tex es charum u tarber peredachaneri tak qshum es- nagruzkeqy tarber en linum u stacvum a vor amboxj diapazonov tvyalner es unenum. Lav klini meky koxqd nstac lini u nayi ed grafiknerin, yst dra qez kasi vonc qshes


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Kpordzem es el im karciqy asel qo tesaketi shurj, chnayac vor vonc vor te gtel em te inch a petq anel.
1./Nax meqenan mi 100-150 km kqshei MENAK BENZINOV/ Kareli a. Nuynisk shat cankali, uxaki ays pahin experimenti pulum em , mi hat sax jokem te ov um barekamna sax jnjelu em u noric sksem.
2. /temperatura pereklyucheniya na gaz - 35 (25-y qicha)/
Havata amary 30 nuynisk shata u qich chi. Uxaki arandznapes tarberutyun chem zgacel 25-i u 30-i mej taq exanakin , dra hamar drac e 25.
3. /560-y khanei/ Aysinqn 0 dnem? dran es dzerq chem tvel yndhanrapes. Kriterianeric meky ena vor et pahin motori oboroty 560 rpm ic qich chlini. Im depqum tenc xndir chunem, taq motori depqum malis 760-800 rpm, isk aveli sary ghamanak 1000-1100 rpm. Nenc vor da indz chi xangarum dra hamar ski chem el mtacel dzer tal.
4. /pereklyucheine na benzin 3500/ Et gitakcabar em drel vor dranic bardzr nagruzki ghamanak qci benzin, tenc ham motorin a shat lav, ham el erb petq a linum shtap rivok anel erkar chem spasum .Karch asac harmar a, vochinch tox et paherin benzin vari.
5/Kmiacnei Avarinnye zapuski na gaze/ En ketn a vorin vor es qo het yndhanrapes hamadzayn chem. Animast sahmanapakum a gazov xod talu hnaravorutyund, petq a uzac chuzac tiv dnes bnakanabar 0 ches toxni, isk vor lranum a gazov xod talu qanaky el gazov xodi chi ynknum (Glxovs ancel a dra hamar em vstah asum)
6./Kmiacnei Progrev gazovyx forsunok/ Inchqan haskacel em da dizelov motorneri hamar a , miacrac chi exel es el dzer chem tvel.
7.Inch verabervum a dexin korin asem vor uxaki kalibrovkic heto karar inch vor default vichki berer aravel evs vor avtomat gazi kartan jnjum a, bayc de vochinch dzerov kdzem Smile
8. Dexin kori "1" kety verv/nerqev anelu hetevanqov kangnac ghamanak es dzeci voch te malin, vori tak vor ashxatum er motory, ayl poxum ei "1" i dirqy u gaz ei talis - poxum ei u gaz ei talis minjev vor bereci optimal vichaki, hima dra anuny inch a ? Mali? Rivok? Isk inch bana XX vor grel es? Karox a eti a XX -y?
Du voch mi ban cheir asel otklyucheni cilindrovi masin.Bayc parzvum a sax dra takna , petq a chisht brncnes et tivy.
Es pordzi hamar drel ei 220ms. Meka aravoty eli hangec bayc urish dzev. Mard ays gorcum petq a shat lav slux unena Smile henc miacnum er gazi klapany motorin vonc vor zorov hangcner. Karch asac drel em 620 ms. kamac kamac ancnum a gazi,vonc vor te toxnes minjev benziny lriv varvi verjana nor dem es talis gazy, bayc vonc vor eli mi tetev tex uni shatacnelu erevi mi 650ms normal klini.(Gazoviknery drel ein "0" u mek mek hangum er mek mek voch)
Shat hnaravor a vor dexin korin dzer taluc heto mi hat el et cilindri parametrn el a petq dzmzel bayc de arden myus aravot notebookov zinvac.
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6./Kmiacnei Progrev gazovyx forsunok/ Inchqan haskacel em da dizelov motorneri hamar a , miacrac chi exel es el dzer chem tvel.

Нет ты не правильно понял во первых как на дизеле ставить метан Smile это для зимы легкого перехода на газ для климата минус 30-35 наверно.


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Если на дизели невозможно ставить метан, то тогда речь идет уже о пропане (жидком газе) на дизеле ? Ну тогда наверное надо включать опцию прогрев газовых форсунок? Я думаю в моем случае не надо включать, тем более что я каждый день эксплотирую машину.
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Зимой скорее всего нужно будет включать.

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Kpordzem es el im karciqy asel qo tesaketi shurj, chnayac vor vonc vor te gtel em te inch a petq anel.
1./Nax meqenan mi 100-150 km kqshei MENAK BENZINOV/ Kareli a. Nuynisk shat cankali, uxaki ays pahin experimenti pulum em , mi hat sax jokem te ov um barekamna sax jnjelu em u noric sksem.
2. /temperatura pereklyucheniya na gaz - 35 (25-y qicha)/
Havata amary 30 nuynisk shata u qich chi. Uxaki arandznapes tarberutyun chem zgacel 25-i u 30-i mej taq exanakin , dra hamar drac e 25.
3. /560-y khanei/ Aysinqn 0 dnem? dran es dzerq chem tvel yndhanrapes. Kriterianeric meky ena vor et pahin motori oboroty 560 rpm ic qich chlini. Im depqum tenc xndir chunem, taq motori depqum malis 760-800 rpm, isk aveli sary ghamanak 1000-1100 rpm. Nenc vor da indz chi xangarum dra hamar ski chem el mtacel dzer tal.
4. /pereklyucheine na benzin 3500/ Et gitakcabar em drel vor dranic bardzr nagruzki ghamanak qci benzin, tenc ham motorin a shat lav, ham el erb petq a linum shtap rivok anel erkar chem spasum .Karch asac harmar a, vochinch tox et paherin benzin vari.
5/Kmiacnei Avarinnye zapuski na gaze/ En ketn a vorin vor es qo het yndhanrapes hamadzayn chem. Animast sahmanapakum a gazov xod talu hnaravorutyund, petq a uzac chuzac tiv dnes bnakanabar 0 ches toxni, isk vor lranum a gazov xod talu qanaky el gazov xodi chi ynknum (Glxovs ancel a dra hamar em vstah asum)
6./Kmiacnei Progrev gazovyx forsunok/ Inchqan haskacel em da dizelov motorneri hamar a , miacrac chi exel es el dzer chem tvel.
7.Inch verabervum a dexin korin asem vor uxaki kalibrovkic heto karar inch vor default vichki berer aravel evs vor avtomat gazi kartan jnjum a, bayc de vochinch dzerov kdzem Smile
8. Dexin kori "1" kety verv/nerqev anelu hetevanqov kangnac ghamanak es dzeci voch te malin, vori tak vor ashxatum er motory, ayl poxum ei "1" i dirqy u gaz ei talis - poxum ei u gaz ei talis minjev vor bereci optimal vichaki, hima dra anuny inch a ? Mali? Rivok? Isk inch bana XX vor grel es? Karox a eti a XX -y?
Du voch mi ban cheir asel otklyucheni cilindrovi masin.Bayc parzvum a sax dra takna , petq a chisht brncnes et tivy.
Es pordzi hamar drel ei 220ms. Meka aravoty eli hangec bayc urish dzev. Mard ays gorcum petq a shat lav slux unena Smile henc miacnum er gazi klapany motorin vonc vor zorov hangcner. Karch asac drel em 620 ms. kamac kamac ancnum a gazi,vonc vor te toxnes minjev benziny lriv varvi verjana nor dem es talis gazy, bayc vonc vor eli mi tetev tex uni shatacnelu erevi mi 650ms normal klini.(Gazoviknery drel ein "0" u mek mek hangum er mek mek voch)
Shat hnaravor a vor dexin korin dzer taluc heto mi hat el et cilindri parametrn el a petq dzmzel bayc de arden myus aravot notebookov zinvac.



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txerq mi banem uzum harcnem.ete liambdan miacvac chi gazi kompin(bardolini system) dranic inch problem kara lini?BSM cragrum misht 4,9v cuyc talis!nor nkateci vor et lar@ chen miacrel.meqenas w124 e320 1995,M104 hfm matorov.arji miacnel te che?


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txerq mi banem uzum harcnem.ete liambdan miacvac chi gazi kompin(bardolini system) dranic inch problem kara lini?BSM cragrum misht 4,9v cuyc talis!nor nkateci vor et lar@ chen miacrel.meqenas w124 e320 1995,M104 hfm matorov.arji miacnel te che?



Charje. Lyambdan petq a galis menak nastroykayi jamanak. Controlleri ashxatanqin na chi masnakcum


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Erkar ghamanak pordzarkelov Digitronic-i tarber parametrery popoxelov reduktoric ekac chnshumy ev miaghamanak kalibrovka anelov tarber depqeri hamar hangeci mi tarberaki vory depqum staca maximum hzorutyun ev mot 5-10 km shat em qshum 1 zapravkov. Chgitem inchu im gazoviky chnshumy bacel er reduktoric 1.5 atm. Amenaarajin ev glxavory ayn er vor reduktori vrayic avelacreci 1.5 atm-ic 2.0 atm ev et chnshman depqum areci kalibrovka ev kartayi tetev uxxum.Ays dzevov meqenan iroq shat-shat mot a benzinov qshelun.
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